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Topic: Fidelity results inconclusive
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TruthorNot Member
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posted 10-06-2002 05:06 PM
My husband just took a fidelity test last night and the results came up inconclusive. The examiner did 4 charts (computerized) and before issuing the last one told him to NOT try to control his breathing. He said he wasn't then continued to take it. After the last chart, of course, the examiner gave us the results, asking first if we had fought about the issue on the way to the test site. We hadn't. As a matter of fact my husband seemed quite relaxed about it all day until he sat down in the chair. None of the questions came up as truthful or deceitful. Is this common? My husband swears that he told the truth on EVERY question and that he was not in any way trying to use countermeasures in order to "beat" the test. I don't know what to believe. Of course, I want to believe my husband but unfortunetly there is a non-trust issue, hence the test to begin with. He will be taking another test tomorrow. What are the chances the results will be the same and how will I know if he is manipulating the test or not? I'm anxious for your reply. Thanks
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posted 10-07-2002 12:39 AM
Truthornot, Inconclusives occur approx 5-10% of the time this can be caused by someone trying to use countermeasures or just poor test proceedure by the examiner or sometimes the examinee is not a suitable subject at that time, and the way to resolve it is by a re-test whatever the cause.The examiner would be the best person to determine the use of countermeasures and it sounds like he/she suspected them on the first test. If a countermeasure detection device is employed physical c/measures can be eliminated. Of course you must suspect your husband based on some sort of indication or information that aroused your interest and hence trust can no longer be a reasonable position, or it becomes a problem that won't let the relationship evolve anyway. A polygraph test can help the relationship start moveing again but of course the results must be conclusive. Inconclusives do not tell you anything about the deceptiveness of a subject. IP: Logged |
TruthorNot Member
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posted 10-07-2002 06:14 AM
Thank you very much. I am suspecting that the examiner will use the detection device today since he suspected countermeasures were used on the last test. I am very nervous about this next one this morning. More nervous than if I were the one taking it. Anyway, thanks again. I'll let you know how it goes.------------------ TruthorNot IP: Logged |
TruthorNot Member
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posted 10-08-2002 11:34 PM
Dear Lielabs:My husband took another test on Monday. Before the test was actually given, the examiner took me outside and told me that he was already pretty sure my husband would pass because of the questions that he seemed most concerned about. Something about these being the control questions. This time the examiner took three scores and when done told me that he was telling me the truth. I was very relieved, however I am still finding it hard to sleep because he only gave me the deception percentage on three questions (the only ones that I added to the tests) I didn't add anymore than this because his other "standard" questions seemed to pretty much cover most of them. However, he would not print out the results of those questions. My question to you is, don't I as a paying customer have right to see the results of ALL of the questions? Plus he only gave me the results of three questions of one chart? Why not all three? Should I just leave things alone, or do you think I should as the examiner for the results of all of the questions for all three tests? I'm sleepless. Thanks in advance for your opionion. ------------------ TruthorNot IP: Logged |
TruthorNot Member
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posted 10-08-2002 11:36 PM
The highest deception rate was 11% on one of the questions, is this NDI? Also, he did not employ any countermeasure device as you had mentioned in your last post. What do these percentages mean? I am really confused as he told me that my husband was telling the truth. Why, then, wouldn't it be at 0%? Please help!------------------ TruthorNot [This message has been edited by TruthorNot (edited 10-09-2002).] IP: Logged |
lielabs Moderator
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posted 10-09-2002 04:10 PM
Truthornot,The percentages are a statistical probability of error. 11% would mean that there is a 89% chance that your husband is not attempting to deceive when he answered that question. However this would only be of value if it correlated with the examiners hand numerical findings which would be a score 0f +3 per chart (ZCT) or something like this depending on the protocols for the format the examiner used. It is very rare that the computerised statistical analysis gives a 100% probability eliminateing the chance for an error completely, not even DNA results will give you that. Yes you can request the charts,numerical scores and full question lists from the examiner. If you have doubts get another independant examiner to blind score the test that was done for you. Diagnostic questions are for comparison purposes only and are generally not scored by the examiner but usually the answers to which indicate deception. IP: Logged |