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Deanna
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posted 01-15-2000 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deanna   Click Here to Email Deanna     Edit/Delete Message
I need help!
I am in line for a wonderful job with our Police Dept. - However, a Polygraph is required. My problem is, I have in the past used Marijuana-not much, maybe twice a year, my last time being 6 mos ago. I did use it alot in High school (9 years ago)
Getting this job means everything to me.
There is a supposed "X-Polygraph Examiner" named Doug Williams on the internet offering to show the layperson "sting the polygraph" -for a price of course!
My question is, should I try to beat the polygraph,-I have heard it is possibe, or should I tell the truth (which I would feel better doing) and risk not getting the job.
I don't know how tough Police Departments are on past drug use-(its for a dispatching position)

Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LouRovner
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posted 01-16-2000 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LouRovner   Click Here to Email LouRovner     Edit/Delete Message
Deanna,

It's best to be completely honest when taking a polygraph exam. A good examiner will almost always catch you in a lie.

Personally, I wouldn't spend the money on Mr. Williams' course unless he could supply you with the names of 25 or more people who would be willing to tell you how well his technique worked for them. Frankly, Having done polygraph research myself, I know that it is next to impossible to defeat a first rate polygraph examiner. Talk to five or ten of Mr. Williams' "success stories" before you spend your money.

From another point of view, I don't think it's a good idea to base a new relationship (with an employer) on a lie. It may come back to haunt you. I myself would never be comfortable in such a position. You may be pleasantly surprised what could happen if you are totally honest.

Good luck!

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KD
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posted 02-09-2000 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KD   Click Here to Email KD     Edit/Delete Message
Deann,

Of course, some techniques work better than others and some well trained polygraph examiners are able to tell when a person is trying to manipulate their exam.

As an experienced law enforcement officer, I can assure you that there is a plethora of examiners in police departments across the U.S., who, because of inconsistent practice and refresher training, identify dishonest people as being truthful and vice versa.

Remember....the polygraph is an inexact science. It is approximately 85 % accurate and does not detect lies! It only measures physiological responses.

Although many will not tell you this, polygraph exams are specifically used to perform successful interrogations via the perceived intimidation of the testing instrument.

Mr. Rovner gave you some excellent advice. It is always best to be honest and as a person seeking employment with a police department, integrity is essential.

Just for your information however, it is possible via a variety of countermeasures,to manipulate the results of a polygraph in your favor.

Dr. C. Honts has done some interesting research on this topic along with others. Their conclusions show that polygraph examinations or better stated, some examiners can be beat by the approperiate use of mental and physiological countermeasures.


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LouRovner
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posted 02-09-2000 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LouRovner   Click Here to Email LouRovner     Edit/Delete Message
From the tone of KD's reply, one can only assume that he is not a polygraph examiner. As such, even though he is a police officer, he is not an expert in polygraph testing.

Since he is not an expert, what we are reading is an opinion of someone who has no real professional knowledge of polygraph techniques.

Always remember that opinions are not facts.

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Chip
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posted 03-14-2000 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chip   Click Here to Email Chip     Edit/Delete Message
Deanna;

In addition to the comments already made by others about being truthful, let me share something with you about pre-employment testing.

I test people all the time who want to work for my department, so I know what I'm talking about here.

Many times, someone conceals something from me in an attempt to "beat" me. After their deceptive results and an interrogation, they usually fess up.

Many times, what they were concealing wouldn't have excluded them from employment if they would have just told me the truth to begin with. But, if I have to "work" it out of them after their poly, we won't hire them.

The point is this, most departments would rather hire someone who has made some mistakes, is honest about them and has learned from them; than someone who is being dishonest.

Even if your recent drug use disqualifies you from employment RIGHT NOW, you may be asked to return in a year or so, providing you have truly quit using drigs. But, I guarantee you, if you lie, you won't ever have a shot at working for that department in the future.

I hope this works out well for you,

Detective Chip Morgan
Boise Police Department
Boise, Idaho
208-373-5488

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Deanna
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posted 03-14-2000 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deanna   Click Here to Email Deanna     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the advice everyone!
Just wanted to give you an update...

I told the truth on the polygraph re my drug use; My background invest. then told me that dept. policy was not to hire anyone w/ admitted drug use w/in the past year. -Just like you said, Chip. But I got lucky, my investigator was also the training Sup., she liked me and talked to the Chief and they agreed I would be the exception to the rule.

Who knows what would have happened if I tried to beat the polygraph........
I do know I now have alot more respect for the examiners & the test itself.

Thanks, guys!!
Deanna

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