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Issue #128 - September 4, 2005

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IN THIS ISSUE:

1. EDITORIAL: "Liebusters.com advertisement misleading"

2 POLYGRAPH SURVEY RESULTS: "If polygraph evidence was
allowed into court, would you personally take a
polygraph test to help your case?"

3. IN THE FORUMS:

PUBLIC FORUM: "I am looking for a part-time APA
approved school. Are there any around?"

EXAMINERS ONLY FORUM: "Hi to all, need information
regarding the changes DoDPI made about scoring"

There are now 170 examiners registered & approved to
use the private forum. How about you?

4. TRUE POLYGRAPH STORY: "My very first polygraph test"
by Chuck Lynch

5. UPCOMING SEMINARS: Is your state association having
a seminar anytime in the year 2005/2006?
Please send me the details so we can let everyone
know.

SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION September 2005
NEW JERSEY POLYGRAPHISTS September 2005
MISSISSIPPI ASSOCIATION September 2005
MIDWEST REGIONAL POLYGRAPH September 2005
COLORADO POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION October 2005
ALABAMA POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION Oct/Nov 2005

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1. EDITORIAL: "Liebusters.com advertisement misleading"

Many of you have emailed me in the past couple of weeks
asking about a solicitation email you received from
liebusters.com.

The advertisement contained a link that makes the ad
APPEAR as though it may be part of our services since
they use the words polygraph-place as part of their
website URL.

I can assure you, the polygraph place HAS NO AFFILIATION
WHATSOEVER WITH LIEBUSTERS.COM.

Here is the URL that was used in this ad. I have
changed the first portion of it so it will not be an
actual link in your email.

liebustersdotcom/Polygraph-Place/Polygraph-Exam.htm

Again, this website address above has no relationship
with the real Polygraph Place.

Ralph Hilliard
Owner - polygraphplace.com

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2 POLYGRAPH SURVEY RESULTS: "If polygraph evidence was
allowed into court, would you personally take a
polygraph test to help your case?"

This was the question most recently run on the
Polygraph Place Website with the following results:

Yes - 811 votes 67.41 %
No - 392 votes 32.59 %

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3. IN THE FORUMS:

*** PUBLIC FORUM ***

"I am looking for a part-time APA approved school. Are
there any around?"

http://www.polygraphplace.com/ubb/NonCGI/Forum10/HTML/000030.html

*** EXAMINERS ONLY FORUM ***

"We took a pretty bad hit but we did not get the flood
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you see on the news. It took me a day and a half to
cut the trees out of my road to get out to what was
left of civilization and we (law enforcement) have
been on the clock since"

To read and respond on this topic, you must have
registered and specifically requested access to the
private part of this forum.

You MUST read AND complete the requirements for joining
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Just scroll to the bottom and READ ALL THE DIRECTIONS
under the heading...

*** Polygraph Professionals only - A PRIVATE Forum ***

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4. TRUE POLYGRAPH STORY: "My very first polygraph test"
by Chuck Lynch

I graduated from the Zonn Institute, Atlanta, Ga. on
Thursday night November 14, 1975. I caught a late flight
from Atlanta to my home in North Carolina. My wife
informed me at the luggage pickup that a message was left
for me to report for work at my sheriff's office the next
morning for a 9AM polygraph examination on a home burglary.

When I arrived for work the next morning, a detective was
waiting for me at the room designated as the polygraph
suite in our brand new government center building. First
class I thought. When I opened the office door, there
sitting in the middle of the floor was a cardboard box
containing the newly delivered Stoelting polygraph
instrument still packed. I looked up at the detective who
smiled and said his 9AM appointment was sitting at his desk
already at 8:15 AM.

I hurriedly unpacked the polygraph instrument to discover,
the purchasing department had bought an all mechanical
Stoelting ultrascribe and I was expecting electronic
components. I hurried around and unpacked the instrument
and when I looked for the ink in the box there was not one
drop to be found. What was I going to do? I remembered that
during polygraph school, I had trained on an all mechanical
instrument with a community ink well and we used blue
fountain pen ink. Instantly, I remembered the county
manager used an old fountain pen his father had given him.
I remembered seeing him load it one day by sticking it into
a blue bottle of ink and sucking it into the pen's
reservoir.

I bolted out of the polygraph suite past the detective
without comment and rushed to the 7th floor of our
government center. I walked right past the county manager's
secretary without comment while she ran behind me yelling,
"What do you want?". The county manager was sitting at his
desk drinking coffee and eating his usual sausage biscuit.
I grabbed his blue bottle of ink and said "I'll explain
later". I ran back to the elevator which was too slow, so
I opted to run down the stairs from the 7th floor to the
ground floor.

Out of breath, I started pouring the ink directly from the
glass ink bottle into the plastic ink bottles provided with
the polygraph instrument. I had ink all over me, my white
shirt and the desk. The ink came out of everything...except
my white shirt.

I took the shirt off, went to the rest room, filled the
sink with water and drowned it. I was left wearing only
a T-shirt and pants.

I quickly got my facts from the detective who said "You
can't run a polygraph in your T-shirt...that is
unprofessional". I was angry and told him to shut up and
bring me the examinee. He was a 19 year old guy who had
been living with his older sister and brother-in-law for
six months. The older sister kept missing crystal, china
and silverware, bit by bit, item by item. She had
inherited these items from her Grandmother. These items
were very valuable and there were no signs of any forcible
entry. They began to suspect the 19 year old brother.

I hurriedly filled out my pre-test paper work, totally
skipped the stim test and reviewed the three relevant
questions and three control questions in the Zone
Comparison I was using.

I did three charts and the boy was so text book deceptive,
I did not take time to numerically score the charts and
began interrogation. In six minutes he had confessed to
stealing all the stuff for marijuana money and told me
the pawn shop where it was pawned.

I stepped out and talked with the detective who was
watching and he was speechless because he had in days
prior to this day interrogated the boy four hours. He went
to the waiting area and got the boy's sister and brought
her into the polygraph suite where I informed her of the
examination results and his confession. She looked at him
and asked "Is this true?" and he replied "Yes". She then
hauled off and socked my examinee in the nose with her
fist and the blood began to pour out of the boy's nose.

I pulled off my only garment left other then my pants
and gave the boy my T-shirt to stop the bleeding. The
detective restrained that wild woman and got her out of
my office to the waiting room. The detective took the
boy to the emergency room for treatment and back to the
magistrate for charges and a bond hearing.

With my dress shirt soaking in the rest room sink and my
T-shirt left at the hospital covered in blood, I sat down
in my bare skin and scored the polygrpraph examination on
a 7 point scale and got a -42. I wrote my report very
quickly and was putting it on the detective's desk when he
was walking in from the jail. He looked at me and said "Not
bad for a rookie, but next time keep some spare clothing in
your locker so you don't embarrass me". I Grabbed my report
and walked out. I wanted to kill him.

I got a call from the Sheriff to come over to his office
ASAP, so I went in my pants, shoes, socks and uncovered
skin. When I walked into his office, he puffed on his pipe
and said "Why did you steal the county managers ink?" I
explained the whole story to him and he said "Well, be a
little more informative next time you barge into a man's
office and grab something off his desk." I said, "Okay
Sheriff" and walked out of his office. Not one time did he
even make a remark that I did not have a shirt on.

I got the county manager's ink bottle and carried it back
to him with an explanation. He informed me that the ink
bottle was his great great Grandfather's ink bottle and
if I had broken it I would be assigned as a jailer. I
apologized and walked out. Again, not one word was said
about me not having a stitch on above my belt line.

I went back by the rest room and found my shirt had been
stolen. I calmly walked back to my desk, filled out a
request for a half day's vacation and threw it on the
Captain's desk. Driving my personal car, I stopped at an
Army Surplus store and bought me a camouflaged T-shirt and
an outer shirt. I stopped at the 19th green and without
saying any more, I'll just say my wife had to come drive
me home.

I knew I was going to love Polygraph for sure after this
first examination. I no longer drink but I think I am
going to ask God's permission to get snookered on November
15, 2005 to celebrate my anniversary of my first polygraph
examination.

by Chuck Lynch

Got a True Polygraph Story? Send it to me at:
support@polygraphplace.com

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5. UPCOMING SEMINARS: Is your state association having
a seminar anytime in the year 2005/2006?
Please send me the details so we can let everyone
know. mailto:support@polygraphplace.com

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- SOUTH CAROLINA POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? Sept 8th - 9th, 2005
Where? Radison Plaza Hotel ($78 a night)
Myrtle Beach, SC.

Who? Dan Sosnowski and another TBA
How Much? Unknown - contact Robbie Bennett (APA)

For information contact Robbie Bennett at (423) 892-3992
e-mail: manager@polygraph.org

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- NEW JERSEY POLYGRAPHISTS 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? September 14th-16th, 2005
Where? Freedhold Gardens Hotel $75/night
Freedhold NJ.
Who? Speaker will be Donald Krapohl of DODPI
How Much? $150 for NJP members, $200 non-members

For information contact Thomas DeBruin at 732-229-5226

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- MISSISSIPPI ASSOCIATION OF POLYGRAPH 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? September 19th - 20th 2005
Where? Golden Moon Hotel & Casino
Philadelphia, MS
How Much? $110 per person
Who? Speakers: Rick Rogers & Bob Campbell

For information contact Bruce Mize at 662-513-7776
or email hrbruce@nmrc.state.ms.us

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- MIDWEST REGIONAL POLYGRAPH 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? September 27th - 29th 2005
Where? Amway Grand Plaza Hotel
187 Monroe Avenue NW
Grand Rapids, MI
How Much? $100 per person if paid by 7/1/2005
Who? Too many to name - see website below

For information contact Ben Escalante at (616)647-0816
or Kari Bumbleburg at (765) 423-1505 x 211.
http://www.midwestregionalpolygraph.org/

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- COLORADO POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? Oct 7th - 8TH, 2005
Where? Denver, CO. (Details TBA)
What? DODPI scoring, countermeasures
and EPPA
Who? Speaker will be Scott Manners
How Much? TBA

For information contact Gary Paxton
email: garypaxton4@aol.com

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- ALABAMA POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? Oct 29th - Nov 3rd, 2005
Where? Carnival Cruise to Mexico - $482.50/person
Departs Mobile, AL.
Who? Speaker will be Scott Manners
How Much? $482.50 per person covers all costs

For information contact Herbert McCants
email: hmmccants@asdd.com

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