The Relevant Issue - #121 - CVSA brands innocent person

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Issue #121 - April 23, 2005

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IN THIS ISSUE:

1. EDITORIAL: "State Banners broaden the reach of your
polygraph business"

2 TRUE POLYGRAPH STORY: "Boy Passes Polygraph Test After
Failing CVSA Test" by Jim Morris

3. IN THE FORUMS:

PUBLIC FORUM: "If the only way to fail is to lie, then
I’m pretty sure I’ll pass. What I’m totally unsure of
is whether, the things I’ve done will prevent me from
getting the job..."

EXAMINERS ONLY FORUM: "...I've never seen anyone go
parasympathetic on me. Now I can't say that anymore."

There are now 147 examiners registered to use the
private forum.

4. POLYGRAPH TIPS & IDEAS: "Have we ever thought about
not using the outside issue question in a Zone
Comparison protocol and structure?" by Michael Lynch

5. UPCOMING SEMINARS: Is your state association having
a seminar anytime in the year 2005?
Please send me the details so we can let everyone
know.

MONTGOMERY COUNTY TEXAS May 2005
OHIO POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION May 2005
COLORADO ASSOCIATION POLYGRAPH May 2005
LOUISIANA STATE ASSOCIATION May 2005
ARIZONA POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION May 2005
MISSOURI POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION Aug/Sept 2005
NEW JERSEY POLYGRAPHISTS September 2005
SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION September 2005
ALABAMA POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION Oct/Nov 2005

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1. EDITORIAL: "State Banners broaden the reach of your
polygraph business"

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2 TRUE POLYGRAPH STORY: "Boy Passes Polygraph Test After
Failing CVSA Test" by Jim Morris

TRUE STORY: I conduct polygraph examinations on many adult
and juvenile sex offenders during different phases of the
criminal proceedings i.e. Pretrial, Pre-sentence and Post
Conviction. In this particular case a 16-year-old boy was
ordered to this specialized sex offender treatment center
for a pretrial, sex offender risk assessment which is a
psychosexual evaluation. This judge requires such
assessments to assist in decisions as to probate or
incarcerate the offender.

On the day of the exam I review the offender's treatment
file to see what has been learned by the clinical
interviews and testing by the treatment team. The
polygraph portion is the very last step of the risk
assessment evaluation. Part of the file contains the
police investigator's report. It read as most do. It
contained the case facts, victim's statement and the
signed confession of the perpetrator. The offender had
also been caught a couple of years earlier being sexual
with the victim. There was nothing out of the ordinary
except there was a Lie Detector (CVSA) report. It stated
the usual false claims about being 100 % accurate, etc,
and went on to say that the suspect failed the test and
confessed to the crime. My only thought at that time was
more propaganda for CVSA, (a test to verify their machine
by a confession instead of validity studies).

While doing my standard pretest interview I asked the
offender what was it that he confessed to. He stated that
he had tried to perform anal intercourse on his 14-year
old brother. I asked if he is guilty of what he confessed
to? The offender said No. I then asked why did he confess
to something that he had not done. He said that he had to.
I asked him to explain.

He stated that he and his brother had gotten into an
argument over something and the boy said that he was
going to get even. The next thing he knew his mother had
called the sheriff’s office he was talking to a county
detective about molesting his brother. He stated that he
told the detective that he had not done anything sexual
with his brother and that his brother was lying. He said
that he did tell the detective about getting caught a
couple of years earlier being sexual with his brother but
that there has not been any type of sexual contact between
the two since that time. The boy was taken to the
detective’s office to continue with the interview. The
detective offered him a (CVSA) Lie detector test. After
the test the detective told him that he failed the test.

I guess I should mention that the Investigator,
Interviewer, CVSA operator and Interrogator are all one
person. The boy said that he was interrogated for around
six hours. He requested to talk to his mother and was told
he could not. He stated that the detective finally told
him that he was not going to be allowed to go home until
he confessed to the crime. The boy said, “I would have
said anything he wanted me to say at that time so that I
could go home”. So the boy confessed, then the detective
locked him up.

As a matter of practice, anytime in a Risk Assessment exam
if the person tells me that they did not commit the
offense and I have enough information, I conduct a
Specific Issue exam. The Relevant issue in this case is
did he perform any type of sex act with his brother during
the specified month of the reported offense. I limited the
time frame to that particular month due to the past sexual
contact he had with his brother. The results were NDI (No
Deception Indicated)

I inquired a month or so later as to what happened when
the case went back to the court. I was told that the judge
was given the evaluation from the sex offender treatment
center during the hearing. After reading the report the
judge called the brother (victim) up to the bench as asked
“Why are you lying about your brother?”. The boy told the
judge something about an argument that he and his brother
had gotten into and that he just wanted to get his brother
into trouble. – Case Dismissed --.

The worst thing about this case is that this boy was about
to go through life with the unwarranted label of
“Convicted Sex Offender”. He would have gotten that label
due to the use of an invalidated machine and a coerced
false confession. Jim Morris

Got a true polygraph story that has affected a life in a
significant way? Please send it to:
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3. IN THE FORUMS:

*** PUBLIC FORUM ***

"If the only way to fail is to lie, then I’m pretty sure
I’ll pass. What I’m totally unsure of is whether, the
things I’ve done will prevent me from getting the job.."

http://www.polygraphplace.com/ubb/NonCGI/Forum1/HTML/000289.html

*** EXAMINERS ONLY FORUM ***

"...I've never seen anyone go parasympathetic on me. Now
I can't say that anymore."

To read and respond on this topic, you must have
registered and specifically requested access to the
private part of this forum.

You MUST read AND complete the requirements for joining
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*** Polygraph Professionals only - A PRIVATE Forum ***

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4. POLYGRAPH TIPS & IDEAS: "Have we ever thought about
not using the outside issue question in a Zone
Comparison protocol and structure?" by Michael Lynch

Evidentiary polygraph examinations are experiments in which
we, the experimenters, attempt to eliminate as many
variables as possible in our testing format so that what
remains is the null-hypothesis which we intended to prove.
The null-hypothesis states there is no significant
difference between the relevant and comparison questions
in a ZC protocol. By including the outside issue question,
we add a variable.

The degree to which the inclusion of the outside issue may
or may not contaminate the experiment is grist for debate.
However, the outside issue question is omitted in test
format variations taught at and validated by DODPI. These
formats are employed by the US Secret Service, US Naval
Criminal Investigative Service and the Air Force Office
of Strategic Investigations.

IR / SR / C1 / R1 / C2 / R2 / C3 / R3

There is an additional problem with the outside issue
question when asked of an examinee whose first language
is not English. Frequently, the outside issue question is
the apparent greatest threat to the well-being of the
English as a Second Language examinee, not because he or
she is concerned with an outside issue, but simply because
he or she does not understand it. Any responses can
mislead the examiner. Sometimes, the KISS Principle is
best.

Comments? Discussion? Send all your replies to:
mailto:polygraph.lynch@verizon.net

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5. UPCOMING SEMINARS: Is your state association having
a seminar anytime in the year 2005?
Please send me the details so we can let everyone
know. mailto:support@polygraphplace.com

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- MONTGOMERY COUNTY TEXAS 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? May 5-6, 2005
Where? Woodlands Texas
Who? Steve Duncan from DODPI - LEPET testing
How Much? $100 per person

For information contact Deputy Mark Handler 936-538-3251
e-mail: mhandler@co.montgomery.tx.us

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- OHIO POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? May 12-13, 2005
Where? Cognative Veracity Assessment
Centerville OH Police Department

For information contact Julie Gerspacher
937-428-4750.

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- ARIZONA POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? May 13, 2005
Where? Tempe Police Department
120 E. 5th St.
Tempe, AZ 85281.

Who? Dick Hickman will teach on the
Directed Lie Comparison Question
How Much? $50 per person ($75 at the door)

For information contact Kay Docter (520) 326-4756
e-mail: swpolygraph@msn.com
or
Laura Wells
602-272-8123
email - laurawells@cox.net

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- COLORADO ASSOCIATION OF POLYGRAPH EXAMINERS 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? May 13-14, 2005
Where? Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office
Centennial, Colorado
What? Chart Analysis & Physiology
Who? Lt. Mike Platte of the Missouri Highway Patrol

For information contact Baseline Associates (303) 238-2225
to make a reservation.

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- LOUISIANA STATE POLYGRAPH 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? May 20-22 2005
Where? Comfort Inn Suites
Sulphur LA.
How Much? $175 per person

For information contact K. Clark @ 337-491-9105
or cell 337-523-5678

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- MISSOURI POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? Aug 31st - Sept 2nd, 2005
Where? Chateau on The Lake - $99/night
Branson, MO.
http://www.chateauonthelakebranson.com
Includes: Kansas & Nebraska Associations

For information contact John M. Hurlock at (816)-739-9951
e-mail: jmhurlock@aol.com

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- SOUTH CAROLINA POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? Sept 8th - 9th, 2005
Where? Radison Plaza Hotel ($78 a night)
Myrtle Beach, SC.

Who? Dan Sosnowski and another TBA
How Much? Unknown - contact Robbie Bennett (APA)

For information contact Robbie Bennett at (423) 892-3992
e-mail: manager@polygraph.org

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- NEW JERSEY POLYGRAPHISTS 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? September 14th-16th, 2005
Where? Freedhold Gardens Hotel $75/night
Freedhold NJ.
Who? Speaker will be Donald Krapohl of DODPI
How Much? $150 for NJP members, $200 non-members

For information contact Thomas DeBruin at 732-229-5226

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- ALABAMA POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? Oct 29th - Nov 3rd, 2005
Where? Carnival Cruise to Mexico - $482.50/person
Departs Mobile, AL.
Who? Speaker will be Scott Manners
How Much? $482.50 per person covers all costs

For information contact Herbert McCants
email: hmmccants@asdd.com

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