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Issue #112 - November 21, 2004

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IN THIS ISSUE:

1. EDITORIAL: "A recent website testimony"

2 INSTRUMENT FOR SALE: 1 Complete polygraph examiner's
package at a deep discount. Limestone instrument,
Dell Laptop, Countermeasure Cushion, Camera, Pentax
Printer, Biometric Scanner and more.

3. IN THE FORUMS:

PUBLIC FORUM: "When I was about tweleve I put some
peanut butter on my penis. I promptly got freaked out
and never did that or tried anything like that again..."

EXAMINERS ONLY FORUM: "To those examiners using
Lafayette’s voice countermeasure detection
system...they have discovered a ‘flaw’ in the
algorithm of the software; and therefore the
evaluation for countermeasures is ‘Not’ being done
correctly.

There are now 127 examiners registered to use the
private forum.

4. FEATURE ARTICLE: "Limestone's call to reliability
and validity research testing" by Jamie Brown

5. UPCOMING SEMINARS: Is your state association having
a seminar anytime in the year 2005 ??????????????
Please send me the details so we can let everyone
know.

NATIONAL POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION January 2005

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1. EDITORIAL: "A recent website testimony"

We recently completed a website and advertising package
for Mr. Brad Kelly. He and his wife were very pleased
and what follows is their un-edited email...

"Thank you for sending a receipt. Brad wanted me to
e-mail you to see how much it would cost to have
the state banner for the rest of the year, and to
see when the next Spotlight Ad is open and see if
we can't book it. We have been getting a lot of
calls so far and are very impressed with your work.

We wish we had run into you before we hired the
other guy to design our KPI website, we would have
had you do it as well." SUE ANNE KELLY

The website I designed for the Kellys was
http://www.polygraphguy.com

The reason this package is so effective is that you not
only get a professional website of your own, but you
get a ton of free or discounted advertising to go with
it.

I would love to do 50 or 60 more of these packages in
the upcoming year to help you all build your polygraph
business. Just give me a jingle when you are ready.

(oh and I would love to build websites for any other
reasons as well. If you ever hear of someone needing
a website for any reason...please tell them about me)

Here are the package details again in case you missed
them.

1 Domain name (www.yourcompany.com) $25 value

5 Basic Listings - $125 value
(even if you already have one, we'll give you five more)

1 Featured Listing - $99 value
(upgrade any one of your listings to featured. This
means your listing goes to the top of the search
results)

1 State Banner - $325 value
(full color banner that goes to the top of any search
done in your entire state for 3 months)

1 Professional & Custom Designed Website - $500 value
(includes FREE minor updates throughout the year)

1 Year of Hosting on our brand new server - $240 value
(includes free email, spam & virus protection)

1 Year Free Technical Support & Friendly Customer Service

Ralph Hilliard - The Polygraph Place
support@polygraphplace.com
770.794.1325

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2 INSTRUMENT FOR SALE: 1 Complete polygraph examiner's
package at a deep discount. Limestone instrument,
Dell Laptop, Countermeasure Cushion, Camera, Pentax
Printer, Biometric Scanner and more.

In March, 2004, Mr. Richard Hickman(Dick), a long time
polygraph examiner and also a family friend purchased
a brand new, top of the line Limestone Polygraph System
and he purchased all the extra goodies as well. When
I say this system is complete...it is complete.

Bottom line is that Dick never got the opportunity to
even run one realy test on the instrument as his doctor
demanded that he truly retire from active testing. He
has retired at least three times in the past :)

Anyway, I'm helping him sell the package and he's
willing to give a serious discount. If interested, all
the details on a web page I put together and you can
see pictures of each of the components and other
goodies. Savings is $2,500 off the retail price.

First come, first serve. Cash, Check, Visa/MC.

http://www.polygraphplace.com/limestoneforsale

Contact me if you are interested. Dick has shipped the
instrument here and I'll be mailing it out to you.

Ralph Hilliard
770.794.1325
mailto:support@polygraphplace.com

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3. IN THE FORUMS:

*** PUBLIC FORUM ***

"When I was about tweleve I put some peanut butter on my
penis. I promptly got freaked out and never did that or
tried anything like that again..."

http://www.polygraphplace.com/ubb/NonCGI/Forum1/HTML/000261.html


*** EXAMINERS ONLY FORUM ***

"To those examiners using Lafayette’s voice
countermeasure detection system... they have discovered
a ‘flaw’ in the algorithm of the software; and
therefore the evaluation for countermeasures is ‘Not’
being done correctly.

To read and respond on this topic, you must have
registered and specifically requested access to the
private part of this forum.

You can read the requirements for joining this private
forum here:
http://www.polygraphplace.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi

Just scroll to the bottom and READ ALL THE DIRECTIONS
under the heading...

*** Polygraph Professionals only - A PRIVATE Forum ***

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4. FEATURE ARTICLE: "Limestone's call to reliability
and validity research testing" by Jamie Brown

Polygraph has always had its skeptics. With the spread
of internet communications, this is truer than ever
before. Most criticism points to a lack of scientific
reliability and specificity, reason enough for the entire
polygraph community to be concerned.

At the same time, polygraph examiners are confident that
their methodology works. It remains up to them to thwart
the skeptics by proving that their confidence in polygraph
methodology is scientifically sound. The only reasonable
way to bridge the gap between the seasoned examiner and
the skeptic is the tried and true process of validated
research.

Personally, as President of Limestone Technologies, I am
determined that more research take place. We have launched
polygraph into many new directions. For instance, we have
the polygraph industry's only 16-bit hardware. What this
means is that we can provide more reliable EDA readings
than offered by conventional polygraph instruments.

Similarly, the synchronization of video with physiological
readings is for the first time enabling researchers to
study the value of facial tells and how they relate to
other research in deception.

Finally, we have incorporated the ability to present
visual/audio stimuli as well as a method for measuring
thermal changes caused by deception. Although we are still
considered "the new kids on the block", our creative group
of engineers is leading the way with many innovative
polygraph technologies.

Skepticism about the validity of polygraph has become a
health hazard to the practice of polygraph worldwide and
it is time that we take our future in our own hands. We
have always set a high premium on research.

I believe that the polygraph industry has tended to react
too defensively to recent reports, including the 2003
report of the National Academy of Sciences. Instead, we
at Limestone take those various reports as a challenge
to forge ahead to build a more scientifically-based
polygraph instrument.

We are currently co-participating in several academic
research projects to see where those new doors may lead and
how we can continually add value to our polygraph software
and instrument. We are pursuing many new ideas and look
forward to sharing our new discoveries with the entire
polygraph community."

I see the need for others in the industry to match the
steps taken by Limestone Technologies Inc. Everyone
involved in polygraph should consider themselves a
stakeholder in building a sound, scientific basis for
polygraph.

The future of polygraph can be bright but we must all work
hard to make it so.

Jamie Brown
Limestone Technologies Inc. - President
http://www.limestonetech.com

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5. UPCOMING SEMINARS: Is your state association having
a seminar anytime in the year 2005 ??????????????
Please send me the details so we can let everyone
know. mailto:support@polygraphplace.com


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- NATIONAL POLYGRAPH ASSOCIATION 2005 SEMINAR -
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When? January 24-26th, 2005
Where? Imperial Palace Hotel & Casino
Las Vegas, NV

For information contact Gary Davis 785-828-3248
e-mail: nationalpolygraph@yahoo.com

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